The Enormocast Mountaineering Podcast with Chris Kalous, Episode 268

At our hearts, we’ve been talking about the quantum physics of things, the things that don’t make sense, but we know them to be true…”
Chris Kalous

I contacted Chris Kalous, host of The Enormocast Podcast, in order to talk about the American Alpine Club’s Climbers Grief Fund, in which I am a volunteer therapist.

My attitude is that grief counseling is one of the last things a climber need therapy for, literally, and that counseling is empowering, and can make one both a better person and a better climber.

Naturally, Chris and I talk about a lot of things relating to climbing, exploration, and how attitudes have changed over the decades.

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