“’At our hearts, we’ve been talking about the quantum physics of things, the things that don’t make sense, but we know them to be true…”
― Chris Kalous
I contacted Chris Kalous, host of The Enormocast Podcast, in order to talk about the American Alpine Club’s Climbers Grief Fund, in which I am a volunteer therapist.
My attitude is that grief counseling is one of the last things a climber need therapy for, literally, and that counseling is empowering, and can make one both a better person and a better climber.
Naturally, Chris and I talk about a lot of things relating to climbing, exploration, and how attitudes have changed over the decades.
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